Neighborhood Council Clashes Over Hermon Task Force
Riser said actions of fellow board members were "cowardly."
The tiny community of Hermon has become the center of a major clash between members of the Arroyo Seco Neighborhood Council.
Since late last year, a task force of Hermon residents have been laying the groudwork for excluding the Northeast L.A. neighborhood of about 3,500 residents from the ASNC's boundaries, and forming new board dedicated to their small community.
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update: We originally posted that Hermon was a community of 9,000 residents. The actually population is approximately 3,500. We regret the error.
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The efforts of those Hermonites, though, have not sat well with every council stakeholder, and on Monday night the board was presented with a motion requesting the resignation of those members that have supported the formation of the Hermon neighborhood council.
Jim Henderson, a Monterey Hills resident, submitted the motion to the council during their meeting on Monday night, saying that their "actions are a clear indication that these board members are not acting nor in the future will act in the best interest of the ASNC and its ideals."
Joseph Riser, an ASNC member and supporter of the proposed Hermon neighborhood council, disagreed with Henderon's assertion that the council's Hermon reps no longer had the best interest in the community in mind, pointing out that several items on the evening's agenda were authored by Hermon residents.
The board declined to vote on the motion, citing the lack of an established precedent for requesting member resignations.
The board also shot down a request by Riser to take a roll call vote on the motion--an effort to get each member of the board "on the record" about the issue.
He called the actions of the board members who declined to vote "cowardly."
"What a bunch of cowards," Riser said. "You won't even go on record with how you feel about this? Do you know that every Los Angeles City Council member is required to go on record with all of their votes?"
Jack Fong, a Mount Washington resident and the board's Vice President, said he wasn't afraid to vote, he just needed more information before going on record.
The Arroyo Seco Neighborhood Council currently represents five Northeast L.A. communities: Hermon, Mount Washington, Montecito Heights, Monterey Hills and Sycamore Grove.
There are five Hermon residents who sit on the 16-member board. Hermon residents have also been among the most active council members in seeking community improvement funds.
Wendi Riser, who is a Hermon stakeholder, said the small neighborhood had "outgrown the neighborhood council."
"It's like when you have a plant in a planter box that is outgrowing all the other plants," Riser said. "You need to move it to a new location so it can thrive and grow even bigger, and so the smaller plants can begin to grow too."
Though Hermon is home to some of the neighborhood council's most active members, the small size of the council may prove an obstacle in its certification effort.
Earlier this month, Department of Neighborhood Empowerment (DONE) General Manger BongHwan Kim wrote a letter to the task force, saying there were no established protocols for forming new neighborhood councils for communities of less than 20,000 residents.
Joseph Riser, however, has stressed that the final decision does not rest with DONE but with the Board of Neighborhood Councils, and that there were several other neighborhood councils representing communities of less than 20,000 in Northeast L.A.--include Atwater Village (14,933) and Cypress Park (10,833).
Hermon resident and board member Mark Legassie said he was surprised by reluctance of stakeholders to embrace the idea of a Hermon neighborhood council.
"I thought people would have welcomed this," Legassie said.
Martha Benedict
8:24 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Hermon has a population of about 3,000. The board voted against the "roll call" vote only. We don't vote secretly. Joe's amendment would have required names to be included in the vote tally in the Minutes. The original motion was not addressed because we ran out of time. The motion is a request; it would not remove anyone from the board. It will be carried over to the next regular ASNC meeting unless the maker of the motion withdraws it. I have been told repeatedly by the Department of Neighborhood Empowerment (DONE) and the City Attorney that any boundary adjustment to an NC is first considered by DONE and they have already recommended against it. Not everyone in Hermon favors breaking away from the ASNC. Also, should such a thing be allowed, the community of Monterey Hills would be disenfranchised. NCs cannot be composed of non-contiguous areas.
JRiser
11:18 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Let me try to correct numerous errors in this response: 1) the "maker" of the motion, if in this instance Martha means Mr. Henderson, may not longer withdraw it. The motion had been moved and seconded by board members (the only way we could have acted on it in the first place), and is now the "property" of the full ASNC body, under Roberts Rules. It cannot be amended, or removed, and must appear on the next agenda. At that time, the board members who moved and seconded may withdraw it -- but only AT that public meeting. 2) Under the ASNC Bylaws, the board has no authority to submit a "boundary adjustment" petition to DONE for consideration until AFTER the ASNC follows itts own bylaws amendment process (which involves a vote of registered STAKEHOLDES, and not just the board), the first steps for which the ASNC Hermon Local Issues standing committee submitted formally on behalf of a stakeholder group that is the "Hermon NC Formation Committee." 3) DONE, under the "PLAN" that provides their authority in all matters, cannot officially "recommend" anything regarding the subdivision of a City NC until all the various forms are submitted to them by the two bodies involved, and even then, their recommendation is only that (in 2002, DONE recommended against the ASNC's petition to be certified, also).
JRiser
11:23 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
(continuing . . .) 4) It's true, not everyone in Hermon favors separation (when could that every be true?) but in two very well-attended, well publicized public meetings the votes have been unanimous to proceed down this path, even after receiving DONE's ill-informed reply. 5) The community of Monterey Hills would remain contiguous with the rest of ASNC through Debs Park, which is wholly contained within the ASNC boundaries. Nothing would change (look at a map).
It should be noted, that since the ASNC president it taking step-by-step instructions from a City Dept. (so much for the "independence" of neighborhood councils, per the City Charter, that DONE has seriously botched the handling of several boundary adjustments in recent years, including a much less complication one in the "SORO" Neighborhood Council and another involving (I believe) one of the Hollywood NCs that was looking to simply subdivide. Their track record on advising NCs of the best way to proceed isn't very good at all, and in this case, they have actually advised (w/ the City Attorney) the ASNC to violate its own Bylaws -- something that: a) they're forbidden from doing, and b) would open the ASNC up to formal grievances from stakeholders and other possible actions.
(What's one of the main grounds for an NC to be decertified by the City? "Failure to follow it's own approved Bylaws.")
David Fonseca
9:57 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Thanks for commenting Martha,
I've updated the Hermon population numbers. I don't believe the story suggests that the board had voted on anything privately or voted anything down, only that they had declined to take the roll call vote as called for by Mr. Riser. I believe the story also makes it clear that Mr. Henderson's motion would have called for the Hermon board members to resign voluntarily--not to dismiss them from the council outright.
Thanks for reading!
Martha Benedict
10:11 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
I did not mean to suggest your story wasn't accurate. It's good! Thanks!
Alice M.
2:48 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Well, 'cowardly' may not be the most diplomatic way to express something, but going on the record seems like a no-brainer. If you're elected by stakeholders, shouldn't they know how you vote on important issues? Otherwise, how do they know whether to re-elect you or not? Neighborhood councils probably should be required to show the name of each member by every vote taken, but especially if it's to spend taxpayer money, or in this case, on 'personnel' issues. If you're asking for someone else's job, you shouldn't be hiding in the back of a crowd to do it.
Greg Nelson
12:19 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012
My suggestion is that all interested parties sit down with DONE and the Office of the City Attorney, with the subject being "how can Hermon become its own NC?" Current rules don't specifically address a method for "sub-dividing," so don't forget the option of BONC creating a procedure or the City Council amending The Plan or an ordinance. If you're told by the city that you can't do something, insist upon seeing the law or rule in writing. This avoids the problem of departments "making it up as they go along."