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Charter School Will Not Move To Franklin Campus

The decision was made by LAICHS during a board meeting on Friday.

Citing concerns for student safety, Los Angeles International Charter High School (LAICHS) officials have rejected an offer from the district to move onto 's campus.

"We had a board meeting last Friday, we mulled it over, it was a long meeting, and [we] decided that were going to reject the offer," said Tony Torres, director of planning and development at LAICHS. "It's important to note that the offer was rejected for fear of safety of the students, also for the hostility that was created."

LAICHS applied to move onto Franklin's Campus through California Proposition 39, which, among other provisions, allows charters to operate on under-populated public school campuses.

"It was a good offer," Torres said, noting that LAICHS' annual rent would have dropped from $20,000 per-month to about $8,800.

LAICHS currently operates on the campus of Pacific Christian Academy on Coleman Avenue in Hermon.

However, while co-location would have been a good deal for LAICHS financially, opponents of the move argued that it would have further strained Franklin High School by adding to the workload of counselors and nurses.

Teachers and students at Franklin adamantly opposed the co-location effort, with United Teachers of Los Angeles (UTLA) representative Monica Whalen and aimed at informing LAICHS faculty and students that they would not be welcome at Franklin.

Opponents also argued that co-location would cause Franklin students to be displaced, as the classroom space offered to LAICHS currently houses students in Franklin's Arroyo Seco Academy.

"I'm thrilled," Whalen said, who was informed of the news by phone during a UTLA meeting.

A round of applause rose from the meeting when Whalen announced the news to the membership.

"We have enough challenges and I want to make sure we focus on what our students need," she said. "This co-location would distract from that."

When asked about some of the language she used in protesting the co-location effort--which made it clear that LAICHS students would not be welcomed--Whalen said she had no regrets.

"I don't what them on my campus, because there would be less resources for my students," she said. "I think because students and staff were not asked if we want this relationship, I think it would be a resentful environment. I don't think there would have been violence, I don't think there would have been fights."

Torres said that LAICHS would likely apply for space on one of LAUSD's campuses again next year, and may even consider moving to Franklin. However, he said outreach efforts would be necessary.

"We don't know right now, but the offer was a good offer," he said. "If there wasn't any hostility, if there was a welcoming environment, if we had time to educate parents about it? We might consider it."

For her part, Whalen said she may be open to discussions.

"If they're going to pay for nurse, counselors and services, I'd be more open for them to be on campus," Whalen said.

Karla Johnson May 02, 2012 at 10:40 PM
Again - Ms. Whalen did NOT organize a demonstration. It was a recruitment. Also - I'm sorry that Toney Torres feels that there was hostility created, but he has to realize that the $8,800 "rent" goes directly to LAUSD - NOT to Franklin students. We did not want LAICHES on the FHS campus, because we think that the resources on that campus should go to the students, not the district.
Alice M. May 02, 2012 at 11:31 PM
This comment suggests that money that goes into the LAUSD general fund doesn't in some way benefit local students. Maybe that's true? But, given declining education budgets and without the added $100,000 or so in revenue that would have been generated by having a charter co-locate on an under-utilized campus, isn't it just as likely that the district will eventually end up now cutting the services and resources FHS students have come to rely on? "Share" services, or have some totally taken away? It would seem like FHS teachers have made that choice -- for the students. Because, when the pie keeps getting smaller, so do the pieces doled out.
Susan R May 03, 2012 at 12:39 AM
Let's give the real reason FHS does not want the charter school coming in. They do not want to face competiton. FHS does not want students seeing what a better job the charter school does.
xoxo May 03, 2012 at 02:08 AM
Susan R. - What proof do you have that LAICHS does a better job than FHS? Please give us proof with data...not opinion. I am not saying FHS is perfect, but why is LAICHS better, according to you?
El Cid May 03, 2012 at 05:08 AM
FYI - At this time I am neutral to this very important matter; yet, the data available on-line on CA CST and other Standardized Assessments of LAICHS does not prove the school is better! If I had to choose a school for my child to attend based on the standardized assessments results between FHS or LAICHS, FHS would easily be the better school choice! Data shows FHS has shown growth in their standardized tests. I respect the comments shared by all; but, clearly some statements are without merit! To those individuals - I ask that you do your homework and look into the data on-line before making the comparison between FHS and LAICHS.
Susan R May 03, 2012 at 02:33 PM
Tests are not the only thing that counts. Teachers and administator's attitudes do. Administrators do not support kids graduating. Paper work is thrown out by paper pushers that should not be thrown out. This school has lots of issues. Look at the drop out rate. Students do not even get to the test issue if they drop out.
Rob Schraff May 03, 2012 at 02:36 PM
LAUSD gets the rent while Franklin students and teachers lose resources. That's not competition, that's a ripoff of local students and parents. Also, if you spend five minutes researching this particular charter, you will find they have barely managed to hold on to their certification. (Your local library - wonderful socialist institution that it is - can help you with this research project.)
Rob Schraff May 03, 2012 at 02:38 PM
Look at the transfers. That's how charters like LAICHS dump bad students back into the real schools - right before testing.
alisa May 03, 2012 at 02:50 PM
At a campus where there is currently co-location of Charters-its not going well. and I blame the individual charters, and also their parent org; the California Charter Association-at the LAUSD hearings they hire thugs to stand on line so regular people cannot have a turn. They are not playing fair, I do not advocate that we use similar tactics-but the Charters are definitely the aggressors-and we have to fight back...or watch our strained resources dwindle even more
Shawn Richardson May 03, 2012 at 03:33 PM
Rob, I would love to see the evidence of LAICHS transferring students before testing. The data I have seen show a highof test taking especially compared to FHS. With regards to standardized tests, the data I saw shows both schools improving, though neither school seems to have scores that I would consider praiseworthy. The LAT ranks LAICHS a 6/10 and FHS a 5/10. LAICHS has met NCLB goals most of the last few years though not all. FHS hasn't met those goals at all. FHS is better at math than LAICHS, but the results are reversed for English. All told, a comparison between the two is difficult because they seem to be about the same and the student body populations differ by an order of magnitude thus exacerbating comparative difficulties.
Shawn Richardson May 03, 2012 at 03:34 PM
Ergh. *show a high rate of test...
Rob Schraff May 03, 2012 at 03:54 PM
In this case, direct comparisons are difficult but you might argue that Franklin is doing at least as well as the self-selected charter students, showing the effectiveness of the instruction. I would think that, all other things being equal, self-selected students should do better? In any case, it is hard to see the advantages of charter "competition." Thanks for looking up actual data - much respect.
Shawn Richardson May 04, 2012 at 03:39 PM
It may be hard to see the advantages of charter competition Rob, but a lack of competition has been demonstrably disastrous. We won't know how advantageous competition is until it reaches a meaningful level. It seems to me that the entrenched educational powers seem more willing to enact change now than a decade ago which leads me to believe that increased competition is preferable to the status quo.
BT May 04, 2012 at 04:33 PM
Listening to these teachers and administrators from Franklyn, you would think they are defending a topnotch school, a school with a history of success. According to the State of California, this is far from the case Franklyn is a failing school, Franklyn has been in PI (program Improvement) for a very long time. Because of their PI standing, they receive title 1 and other funding that is supposed to be used for thing like intervention programs for the students, teacher training yet still they are failing. I live in the community of Franklyn and you could not pay me to send my kids there. I think Susan is right on point. These teaches and administrator simply do not wont this charter school on campus out performing them and showing the Franklyn community of parents just how poor of a job they are doing.
BT May 04, 2012 at 04:46 PM
Rob your argument would be wrong. this is the link to LAICHS report card http://api.cde.ca.gov/Acnt2011/2011GrowthSch.aspx?allcds=19101990109942 and this is the link to Franklyn report card http://api.cde.ca.gov/Acnt2011/2011GrowthSch.aspx?allcds=19647331933043
BT May 04, 2012 at 05:02 PM
Listening to these teachers and administrators from Franklyn, you would think they are defending a topnotch school, a school with a history of success. According to the State of California, this is far from the case Franklyn is a failing school, Franklyn has been in PI (program Improvement) for a very long time. Because of their PI standing, they receive title 1 and other funding that is supposed to be used for thing like intervention programs for the students, teacher training yet still they are failing. I live in the community of Franklyn and you could not pay me to send my kids there. I think Susan is right on point. These teaches and administrator simply do not wont this charter school on campus out performing them and showing the Franklyn community of parents just how poor of a job they are doing. LAICHS is not and has not been in PI. LACHS met all API and AYP criteria look at the (Percent Proficient - Annual Measurable Objectives (AMOs)) this is very important. LACHS met this criteria.
MoJoMoon May 06, 2012 at 05:47 PM
All I know is more students at FHS=more trash on our street from passing students and more traffic at drop-off & pick-up times. And the LAUSD PD sitting on his fat butt "keeping order" is a total Joke, so GOOD!! And Charter programs ARE better because the teacher to student ratio is lower and that's what we need in the schools.
MoJoMoon May 06, 2012 at 05:51 PM
..and it's spelled "Franklin" like the man its named after...yeesh!...If it's in your neighborhood, you could at least glance at it when you pass by now and then to get the spelling correct since you profess to be SO concerned about their success and all...lol
Alice M. May 07, 2012 at 12:17 AM
Maybe now the Alliance Environmental Science and Technology High School - currently at Van de Kamps, but maybe soon homeless - will be offered the spare classrooms at Franklin. That charter school is 50 percent larger than LAICHES, and has even higher test scores apparently (among the highest in LAUSD).
ray May 07, 2012 at 05:09 PM
I recently LEFTED LAICHS its a LOW-BUGET school, i was "Told to leave" because i didn't want them to "confiscate" my cell phone (in which they hold for 1 WHOLE WEEK) the principle is very rude !!! Ms. Escobedo is VERY rude she questioned my parents parenting skills because they didn't want to hand over my phone. IM TRULY HAPPY THEY REJECTED THE OFFER THE BEST THING IS LAICHS SHOULD CLOSE DOWN AND NOT BE A "CHARTER SCHOOL" horrible SCHOOL !!!!
Elijah H May 08, 2012 at 07:16 PM
All of this hostility toward charters... remember that it's largely your neighbors who are sending their kids there. Neighbors who contribute to neighborhood schools too. Creating an adversarial atmosphere and a negative impression among a sizable share of community parents does nothing to help the students at the schools you're attempting to "protect".
Karla Johnson May 18, 2012 at 05:43 AM
Susan - I didn't realize you worked at Franklin.
Susan R May 18, 2012 at 02:51 PM
Karla, I do not work at Franklin.

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