Poll: Surveillance Cameras on Monte Vista?

Would surveillance cameras curb the violence on Monte Vista Street?

near 5300 Monte Vista Street in Highland Park has prompted the Los Angeles Police Department to post the following question on their Facebook page.

The area along Monte Vista street in Highland Park has long been contested between several gangs. Do you support installing surveillance video cameras in the public area to help curb the violence?

Given the violence that's taken place on Monte Vista Street recently, would you support the idea of placing surveillance cameras in the neighborhood? Or do you fear that would unfairly infringe on the privacy of law-abiding citizens?

The Daily News also touched on it last week in a report about an LAPD plan to install cameras in the valley.

The American Civil Liberties Union has asked the city to stop surveillance programs, both because of privacy worries - there has been abuse elsewhere - and out of concern they don't work as well as advertised.

Zine, a retired police officer who's now a volunteer reserve officer, brushed off such objections. So did police, saying anyone who's in public has no expectation of privacy and law-abiding people have nothing to worry about.

"We're not putting these in backyards or homes," [said Councilman Dennis Zine.]

How effective are surveillance cameras in deterring crime? Law enforcement officials swear by them, but a 2011 report by the L.A. Times found that systems in Downtown were essentially useless.

The cameras were installed over the last few years in a highly publicized partnership between local business groups, which purchased them, and the Los Angeles Police Department, which was meant to monitor and maintain them.

But officials said the majority of the cameras don't work. Some broke down and were never fixed. In the case of six cameras purchased to watch over Little Tokyo, LAPD officials admit they were never plugged into the police station's monitoring bank.

Frustration about the broken cameras has deepened in recent days after a string of stabbings on a block in Skid Row. In one case, a 53-year-old man died after being stabbed and beaten by more than half a dozen suspects. No arrests have been made.

A camera is located just above where the stabbings occurred, but officials said the device was not working properly.

Are security cameras worth it? What do you think?


Nimby pimp July 11, 2012 at 01:58 AM
@ Pug. What do you feel is being "stolen" from you?
batgirl4u69 July 11, 2012 at 02:10 AM
And yes i an hispanic . and things change nothing last 4ever in communitys. new people move in thats how it works"
Marino July 11, 2012 at 02:40 AM
What??? Latino culture doesn't favor violence. 95% of the victims of violence in Highland Park are Latinos. If the victims were white the perpetrators would have been arrested by now. Nobody wants to get randomly shot. If you do, go shoot yourself now.
La Pug July 11, 2012 at 03:49 AM
@Nimby Pimp,York Blvd, Figueroa Blvd, Highland Park.
La Pug July 11, 2012 at 03:57 AM
@batgurl4u69, I didn't choose do be on this country and yes I do live in highland park for decades and I am Latino and this city has always been a paserby city,where "white" people and white washed people like u have infected this city! Learn your history, this has always been a Latinamerican based city. And violence has always been brushed under police carpets! I don't agree in violence but this city has always lived on it. So maybe u should go to middleamerica where you'd be greatly appreciated! It's apparent that you just don't even understand the main issue @ hand.
La Pug July 11, 2012 at 04:06 AM
@pascal,what????!!!! Huh,why would I want to shoot myself when there's people out there like you!!!! I never said I favor violence . Highland Park has always been the city it has,with violence,that's just what it is,but now that there is a white person here ,gang members and police are all of a sudden concerned. All of a sudden in the past few years its a concern!!! I am not a gang member and I don't appreciated the violence in my neighborhood ,but I don't mess with them ,revolve myself with them, and they don't mess with me! Maybe all those that do ,are intimidated by them or threatened by them! Or they probably hate you for being you!
baby July 11, 2012 at 04:11 AM
They need to get the slumlord that owns the apartments at 53 and Monte Vista, start with that and work from there!
batgirl4u69 July 11, 2012 at 06:20 AM
la pug u love 2 live in a slum if u really favor that there is a place called south L. A that will be a perfect place 4u. and by the way i have been here has long has u .
Nimby pimp July 11, 2012 at 07:25 AM
@ Pug. Thanks for answering. How do you feel York, Fig and HLP have been stolen? What have they taken away that was valuable to you?
Nimby pimp July 11, 2012 at 07:42 AM
@ baby. You are right. Can you help find the name of the individual or entity who owns the property and post it here?
nonoise July 11, 2012 at 03:04 PM
This race war needs to stop. Police chase after criminals no matter what their color or the color or race of the victim. They already have this suspect in custody. And, people of all colors and races need to be accepted. It is very disturbing when anyone post that one race (white) is not accepted in Northeast. It is equally disturbing when anyone post that they think police discriminate or are racist. Stop racism.
Carl Showalter July 11, 2012 at 04:11 PM
Talk about cutting off the nose to spite the face (looking at you, Pug).
Armez July 11, 2012 at 04:53 PM
@Pug, I've been here since 1968 and I really liked Highland Park until the late 70's when unfortunately, an influx of unfortunates with ties to gangs started to move in. Like others, I'm of Mexican descent. My parents came to this country in the Early 60s. I attended local schools before I went to University. Am I white washed because I don't have an accent? I love that Figueroa Produce is owned by Mexican Americans.I also heard the 99 cents store is owne by a Mexicn American. I love that Food Truck Tuesday was coordinated by a Mexican American. We're a forward looking group of Mexican Americans who are peace loving and invested in providing options to everyone who settles here..C'mon. We're people he need to learn to mingle....it's a social skill!
Lostangel July 11, 2012 at 04:55 PM
Poor little La Pug, perhaps if your going to open your mouth you should actually take a second to learn about your "so called hood" and the history of it. HLP was not always a heavy populated latino area. It was actually white and latinos didn't start moving to HLP till the mid 60's when white flight took place. I would send you a link, but by the sounds of it, your not very well educated enough to read it. Just to make things clear, I am by know means making fun of your race. 90% of my best friends are latino, so don't try pulling the race card. I cant wait for people like yourself to just leave this area and let the rest of us enjoy each others company. I was born in LA and have lived here for 42 yrs. I know and love the culture here, it sounds like maybe it's you that needs to leave. Hope you continue to enjoy the gentrification taking place. It won't be long till your "hood" is filled with more and more diverse people.
Charles Inman July 11, 2012 at 05:19 PM
In 1978 LA enacted Rent Control w/Eviction Control. Since then gang activity has soared. Give control back to each landlord to help the situation.
cmhp July 13, 2012 at 05:41 PM
Excuse me, first of all. I have lived in this area and can remember when there where not just latinos in this living in this area. since then there has been a cluster of illegals and latinos that have brought their bad living habits and gang-related garbage to this historical district and now it's decusting to say that this once beautiful homes are now depicted with junky broken down cars old broken furniture and trashy toys on the front lawns. it looks like the ghettos of Mexico. You sound as ignorant as you write. Really you make the latino look bad in every aspect. signed a chicana 5th generation.
cmhp July 13, 2012 at 05:55 PM
La Pug you make latinos look ignorant! just by what you said. You have no idea or knowledge of this area. Open a book! I have lived in this area since 1970 and seen it spiral downhill when latinos started moving in. They have no consideration of cleaning up their junk infested front lawns piled with broken down cars and trashy toys. Make the neighborhood value decrease. Im proud to say I am a chicana who has live here and proud of its history. Yes I want cameras install to "clean-up" this look a like ghetto Mexico looking I dont give a damn about you as a fellow community. im done.
Margarito Martinez July 19, 2012 at 09:26 AM
When one speaks of the Mexican experiance in So. CA, you have to understand the difference between Mexican/Americans/Chicano & foriegn born, often illegal alien Latino/Hispanics...the socialization of the 2 groups is NOT the same. That's why a Spanish language monolingulist can't understand how it is a native-born Mexican American could have english as thier first language, or how a Spanish sur-named American could prefer Wonder bread to tortillas! If you were brought here illegally in the 1980's you grew up thinking H.P. was a poor barrio & everyone (most) spoke Spanish...in the '90s you were taught that L.A. was a "Mexican" city & if you didn't like it you could leave...the 2000's; this is how it is, it's how it always will be, and how it's always been. Now, in 2012, we ask ourselves what the hell happened around here? How could it happen? Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the killings continue...Whited Washed? If wanting and valuing Peace & Prosperity on the Homefront is white-washed then I'm Bleached Out! Man, I got gym socks that could use that kind of bleach. Especially when violent, ignorant,dirty, hopeless despair, is the alternative.
El Cid July 19, 2012 at 02:29 PM
I've lived in HP since early 1960's. I am Mexican born, educated in HP local schools, and college educated. I have seen the good, the bad, and the ugly! But, HP is making positive changes that are improving the quality of life for all HP residents. It's irrelevant if you are caucasian, hispanic, asian or other unmentioned ethnicities. I welcome anyone to HP who is looking for a welcoming, safe place to call home. In regards to violence and crime, we all share a civic responsibility to help combat it by our active participation, establish Neighborhood Watches, work and support our local police department, and collaborate with our local political officials demanding services and policing. LA has so much to offer and we must all work together to make it a better place to live for everyone to enjoy!
nonoise July 19, 2012 at 03:43 PM
Rosario, I totally agree. I hope everyone hears you. We need to welcome all. And, everyone needs to work to make our neighborhoods better. Rosario, Excellent post.
Charles Inman July 19, 2012 at 08:37 PM
I have been a landlord for over 40 years in the area. The landlords need to be back in the equation as the sole parties that can enter the bangers abode. Rent Control has complete control over evictions. The tenants can live there forever. Toddlers can grow to men. If self esteem is lacking gangs can flourish. Rent Control in New York since WW2 took down many buildings. Neighborhood Watch doesn't work to well in poorer rental neighborhoods. See the movie Gran Torino to see how Clint Eastwood handled it.
Steve South of York July 20, 2012 at 03:53 PM
dbroo August 02, 2012 at 02:20 AM
I like this idea, except the neighborhood watch. This may put our neighbors at risk. Glendale has a very low crime rate and they use cameras.If the bad guys know they are being watched from block to block, perhaps they will be deterred.
dbroo August 02, 2012 at 02:30 AM
I too have called the authorities of the area with no results. I have even called the mayor many times with no call back. We need to replace these "politicians" with those who will be effective.
dbroo August 02, 2012 at 03:01 AM
Twenty years ago I worked for the So. Cal Gas Co. I would go from community to community all throughout Los Angeles, the Valley and beyond. When I would come to the Highland Park I loved it. I loved the trees, the hills, the closeness to downtow or Glendale, Burbank, and of course the people were very friendly- I wanted to live here. After going to grad school and receiving my teacher's credential I moved here. When I was looking for a home a friend "warned" me . He did not want to be racist , but he did say - the most important thing in looking for a home is, Location, location, location!You see, I had no idea there were dangerious gangs here. I did not know there was hate here. I did not know that parents in this community looked the other way when their children killed others in the community. I did not know that your attitude existed in such a beauteful place. I am almost sure that you are not a homeowner in this area. If you were you would have a financial stake in seeing that Highland Park and the people who live here be the best that they can be, and not the worst they can be. Please, who ever you are, look at it this way , the gentrification of this are has caused all of the homes in the area to come back from a horrible price devaluation. We all help each other. Lets make it together. We can all help each other! Will open your heart and be a part of our success- we need yo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dbroo August 02, 2012 at 03:24 AM
Stop the hate.Start finding a way to see yourself as a part of a great community that deserves to be as recognizes as Beverly Hills. We have great people here and La Pug, you are one of them. Believe it- be IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PD August 16, 2012 at 07:52 PM
wow, one person pulls out the race card then you see People's true colors. Pug you're an idiot for your dumb comments especially bringing out the race card. Batgirl, you make no sense. You need to find yourself. Everyone should be welcomed here in HLP.
frank van neutra lautner August 16, 2012 at 08:11 PM
I'm generally not a fan at all of surveillance cameras in the public commons but I think this is a situation where their use is warranted. Their use at those locations should be reassessed at least every two years with general community input and they certainly should be removed some day when they are found to be no longer necessary for the specific purpose of gaining a better handle on the violence around Monte Vista St. resulting from the ongoing gang turf war.
frank van neutra lautner August 16, 2012 at 08:17 PM
I'm not going to waste my time getting into all of the foolish, trollish, nosesnical and sordid (including racist) aspects of your position but I will say this: You don't own this neighborhood, Pug. Nobody is stealing anything that you're entitled to.
PD August 16, 2012 at 08:49 PM
2 Frank totally agree with you. Trust me, they work. Folks, do some research. In other parts of the city cameras have reduced crime and assisted in solving crimes. Think outside of the box.


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