Peeved by Power Outages? HHPNC To Discuss Tonight

Frequent outages are a longstanding gripe for Highland Park residents.

Highland Park residents are no strangers to power outages.

The Santa Ana winds of December, 2011 hit Highland Park harder than most L.A. neighborhods. More than 12,000 residences lost power service during the wind storms and waited for days before it was finally restored.

But it doesn't take a once-in-a-decade storm to rattle Highland Park's fragile power grid--outages are a part of everyday life.

Highland Park-Mount Washington Patch recently received an e-mail from a concerned resident asking if there was anything we could do to investigate why our neighborhood was treated to such poor electrical service from the Los Angeles Department of Water & Power.

The area's ancient infrastructure provides a convenient excuse, but it's not one residents easily accept while dealing with frequent outages.

The issuse has also caught the attention of Historic Highland Park Neighborhood Council memeber Harvey Slater, who has submitted an agenda item for Thursday's meeting that reads as follows:

(5min) Discussion: Power outages have become more frequent in Highland Park and the northeast region. Discuss how this can be remedied by possible council follow up and to determine if a transit village can be accommodated given the frequent power outages. – H. Slater

The Historic Highland Park Neighborhood Council meets on Thursday, March 7 from 7-9 p.m. at the Highland Park Adult Senior Citizen Center. The full agenda can be downloaded from the media box above.

frank van neutra lautner March 08, 2013 at 01:06 AM
Great question! I'm glad to see residents may be starting to take notice. That's the first step.
Steve South of York March 09, 2013 at 03:29 PM
The age of the infrastructure isn't just an excuse, it's a fact. Most of the area's wires, cables, & equipment is at, near, or beyond its lifespan. Another fact is the public's unwillingness to support rate increases required for the needed upgrades. As of Nov-2011, an average LADWP's monthly residential bill (power only) was $65.79, whereas it was $71 in Pasadena, $78.65 in Glendale, $72.50 in Burbank, $78.50 for Edison customers, and $84 for SDG&E. You get what you pay for! City Councilmembers love to play the populist card & blame everyone's favorite scapegoat, DWP, when really we should be looking at ourselves. Even with the modest rate increases approved last year, the average bill would be only $69.34 a month, still less than neighboring utilities. The answer is to replace aging equipment, & dump some existing HLP loads from the very old distribution station (DS) at Ave. 61 & Monte Vista to the newer DS located on Eagle Rock Bl. & Ave. 41. All this will cost money, folks. Now, what we CAN do is put pressure on our councilmembers to make our neighborhood a higher priority. Infrastructure is being upgraded all over this city everyday. Once we become willing to spend the money, we need to make sure we are at or near the top of the list. Too many Westside residents have influence over their district representatives & work is getting done there simply for beautification reasons (e.g. overhead to underground conversions). We have a real need and should be heard!
frank van neutra lautner March 09, 2013 at 04:48 PM
I'm willing to pay $0.50 per day more for 21st century electrical distribution infrastructure.
nonoise March 09, 2013 at 04:55 PM
Homeowners have to approve new street lighting because they will pay higher property taxes for it. Property taxes are high enough already! Get renters to pay for it too.
Steve South of York March 09, 2013 at 05:11 PM
Are property taxes really too high? Really? I mean, they are for me because I bought less than 10 years ago, but for the longtime resident who is paying taxes at slightly above 1.5% of the sale price on a house bought decades for relatively very, very little. Prop 13 essentially froze those property taxes in time (1978) and they aren't paying their fair share. Prop 13 desperately needs to be revised, if not repealed. It would help our infrastructure, and maybe more importantly, our schools.
nonoise March 09, 2013 at 06:52 PM
Steve, I hope you realize that those that are under prop. 13 are going down in numbers. Most are senior citizens that live on limited income, mostly social security and can not afford higher property taxes.
nonoise March 09, 2013 at 06:54 PM
Only property owners should be able to tax themselves. And, if public schools were any good people would not mind paying more in taxes. But paying more is just more money down the toilet. 50% drop out rate at LAUSD. They do not deserve more money. Close down any business that is not profitable, and that includes LAUSD.
Punk Attitude March 09, 2013 at 09:13 PM
The power outages are for real and if you lived anywhere near Figueroa and Monte Vista where the proposed transit villages will be built you would know. Power outages all the time. There was a big outage two weeks ago on Monte Vista during the week at 5:00 am when hard working people are waking up. Power didn't come back until late afternoon.
Nimby pimp March 09, 2013 at 09:47 PM
You are correct here, Punk.
ChickenBoyFan March 10, 2013 at 01:33 AM
People do not want to pay more taxes when we learn is that the money goes toward pensions instead of infrastructure. Why hasn't the maintenance been performed all these years? Who is responsible,the taxpayers? Look what has happened with measure R money. 780 million which will continue to fund bogus studies, and EIRs' that have already been done. We will end up with nothing to show for it. We have been screwed over too many times.
ChickenBoyFan March 10, 2013 at 01:41 AM
They will try to sell prop 13 to us by alluding to the idea that it will be fairer for everyone. Trust me, no one will ever see their property taxes go down. It is a ploy to be able to raise taxes for those that fell under the umbrella of Prop 13. They will see us rot before they stop taxing us. They do not care about you. You are only an avenue for more of their greed and reckless misuse of our property taxes. They could care less if elderly people are forced out of their homes due to higher property taxes. Shut any proposal for tax increases down,until they learn how to budget.
nonoise March 10, 2013 at 01:49 AM
CBF, your absolutely right. And, now Jose is running for Councilmember Ed Reyes seat where he sat for 12 long years. Not another 12 years of "do nothing, Reyes with "no way, Jose". Same old, same old. Vote for change. Vote for Gil.
El Cid March 10, 2013 at 03:39 AM
Nonoise- it's quite apparent you have an ax to grind with Jose Gardea & Ed Reyes! Yet, you present no logical rational reasons for constituents to vote for Gil Cedillo. Why is Gil Cedillo a better candidate over Jose Gardea? What has Gil Cedillo done to merit a vote of confidence?
Steve South of York March 10, 2013 at 04:48 PM
Utility rates have nothing to do with taxes. DWP is not funded by taxes. It is funded by rate payers. Do you want to pay less? Use less. Simple. And maintenance has been occurring, just not at the pace at which it need to be. Of course, you're right about pensions. Some of your money is going to pensions. But such is the case with any product or service you pay for. Part of the cost of that cup of coffee from Starbucks goes to pay someone's pension at the company. If you want to attract good employees, you need to offer good benefits. Otherwise, they'll go elsewhere and we'll have third tier employees running our utility.
frank van neutra lautner March 11, 2013 at 11:46 PM
What do street lights and taxes have to do with the subject of DWP power distribution infrastructure?
nonoise March 11, 2013 at 11:50 PM
Don, one good reason. Because Jose & Reyes have done nothing for the last 12 years in office. We have to give Gil a try. Jose & Reyes already have a record of doing nothing. We have to try something else and not the same old, same old.
frank van neutra lautner March 11, 2013 at 11:50 PM
Baloney. If you've had very few power outages count yourself fortunate because along Monte Vista they've been all too frequent. There have been at least three outages here just in the last few months.
frank van neutra lautner March 11, 2013 at 11:52 PM
That has nothing to do with DWP infrastructure.
El Cid March 12, 2013 at 12:13 AM
Nonoise - I was hoping to hear a logical, rational reasons for why constituents should be encouraged to vote for Cedillo. All you stated was "Give Gil a try." I will agree that we respectfully disagree! Yet, I will not hold Jose Gardea accountable for Ed Reyes's policies. Reyes is Gardea's boss. In such, Gardea must follow the policies, procedures, and protocol his boss has in his administration. I do not believe it is fair to hold Gardea responsible for Ed Reyes's administration. I prefer NO 710 Extension Gardea than YES 710 Extension from Cedillo.
nonoise March 12, 2013 at 12:16 AM
Don, I agree that is an issue. But I spoke to Jose the night of the LIncoln Heights debate. I was nice. He was downright mean and rude. I asked if he would review the noise laws. He said straight out in a very mean loud tone, "No. I will do nothing". I would rather have the 710 than have such a mean, rude and arrogant person in office just like his boss. Jose is the same as Reyes. They are two of the same.
El Cid March 12, 2013 at 02:47 AM
Nonoise - If in fact you were kind to Jose Gardea, then I can understand where you are coming from. And, if Jose Gardea loses the election to Gil Cedillo, he alone will need to accept responsibility for not distinguishing his candidacy from his boss. I will say I share your opinion on Ed Reyes! Nonoise - It's unfortunate that the church bell noise level continues to be a major concern that shapes your opinions. Now, I need to ask another question. Do your neighbors share your opinions with the church matter? Although, I haven't visited Divine Savior Church, I recall homes on the southwest corner, south of the church, across the street southeast, the others are a little further away (across the street northeast and northwest). To the constituents from CD 1 - Let your voices be heard, show up and vote in May or forever hold your peace for the next 4 years!
Culturevator March 12, 2013 at 03:41 PM
Don Q, You are clucking right! Nonoise, there is not a rude bone in Jose's body. And you have really stretched the truth, this time. Jose Gardea is Mr. Nice, all the time. Question: What was Jesse Rosas going to do for you? Take on St. Ignacious at your behest? Doubtful. Jesse is a very decent guy,but even he must know what a loon you can be about this issue. You have ground your church bells ax so vehemently on the Patch, that you have proceeded to grind down your credibility with it. Give it a rest,girlfriend. Smoke some Mr.Nice. NO 710 Toll Tunnels! Not here, not anywhere.
nonoise March 12, 2013 at 04:40 PM
Cult, you were not there the night of the Lincoln Heights debate. He was NOT nice. He was very mean and rude and he got loud when yelling "no, I will not do anything". There were plenty of witnesses. I don't know who they are. But they were there. And, he was not Mr. Nice. I only asked one simple easy question. It was not a debate, just one easy question which would have been a one word answer, yes. I only asked for a review of the noise law. I didn't ask for a change or anything about the church. One simple question, a review. And, the answer came loud and strong, "No, I will NOT. And, I reminded him that it would take no work on his part just an order to the city attorney's office. Again, his same reply, "No, I will not". And, he was very mean and arrogant in his answer.
Rev M G Martinez, ULC March 20, 2013 at 09:15 PM
I think that the HHPNC has been wasting a lot of time, of issues not in their purview, and of little, or no relevence to the stakeholders within our geographic boundaries. This occures, while arguably there have been cases in which they have dropped the ball; i.e., Sun'sn Resturant, and the Burwood debacle. Thought the land use commitee has been critised, the blame belongs squarely on the shoulders of Tom Wilson, whose disreputable conduct in abruptly resigning, after taking upon himself crucial responcibility, left the commitee swinging in the wind. And sadly some of our neighbors must feel like they feel the pinch. Not to mention the fact, that there are other LU issues on the back burner that could be dealt with. But rather than waste more NC time, perhaps these things can be considered in committee? Especially since infastructure is hardly a consideration being that the developer has obviously complied with City requirments. Otherwise the project wouldn't be going though. The developers have met their legal obligations. They have rights that legally must be protected. To waste NC time, with an issue that is at heart, frivilous, IMHO, is a diservice. While there is a question as to to status one permit, which may have expired, that is why we have committees. Not to waste NC time. As far as power shotages, welcome to the neighborhood. Viilagosa brought back basic services, but that was a long time ago. Before that we languished for decades! It's called budget crisis!
Rev M G Martinez, ULC March 20, 2013 at 09:17 PM
Not to carp, just trying to respectfully question the wisdom of wasting more meeting time, with things the NC can't do anything about. Especially when things they can do, go undone. respectfully, Margarito Martinez Sec. Land Use, Historic Highland Park Neighborhood Council


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